October 19, 2021

US creating programs to counter “extremists” — no mention of Jihad or Islam


How can you counter that which you cannot name? How can you combat something that you have already surrendered to? How can you you counter that which must remain unspoken? Who are they going to round up? Robert Spencer and I?
I can just the training programs now:


Law enforcement trainee: If you’re  going to catch the “extremists,” you must know all the players.

Holder: I certainly do.

Law enforcement trainee :  Well you know I’ve never met the guys. So you’ll have to tell why they are waging war, and then I’ll know who’s fighting for whom.

Holder: Oh, I’ll tell you their names, but you know it seems to me they give these “extremists” now-a-days very peculiar names.

Trainee: You mean funny names?

Holder: Strange names, pet names…like ‘Asian,” “immigrant,” “youth” ..

Trainee: His brother “immigrant youth”


Holder: Well, let’s see, we have who’s in Gaza, What’s in Iraq, I Don’t Know is in Libya…

Trainee: That’s what I want to find out.

Holder: I say Who’s in Gaza, What’s in Iraq, I Don’t Know is in Libya…

Trainee: Are you the trainer?

Holder: Yes.

Trainee: You gonna be the prosecutor too?

Holder: Yes.

Trainee: And you don’t know in what cause they are fighting?

Holder: Well I should.

Trainee: Well then who’s in Gaza?

Holder: Yes.

Trainee: I mean the group’s name.

Holder: Who.

Trainee: The extremist in Gaza.

Holder: Who.

Trainee:  The warmongers in Gaza.

Holder: Who.

Trainee: The extremist firing rockets! playing…

Holder: Who is in Gaza!

Trainee: I’m asking YOU who’s in Gaza!

Holder: That’s their name.

Trainee: That’s who’s name?

Holder:  Yes.

Trainee: Well go ahead and tell me.

Holder: That’s it.

Trainee: That’s who?

Holder: Yes.

PA– — — USE

Trainee:  When you pay off groups in Gaza every month, who gets the money?

Holder: Every dollar of it.

PA– — — USE

Trainee: All I’m trying to find out is what’s the terror org’s name in Gaza

Holder: No. What is in Iraq.

Trainee: I’m not asking you who’s in Iraq.

Holder: Who’s in Gaza

Trainee: One country at a time!

Holder: Well, don’t change the players around.

Trainee: I’m not changing nobody!

Holder: Take it easy, buddy.

Trainee: I’m only asking you, who’s the extremists in Gaza?

Holder: That’s right.

Trainee: Ok.

Holdert: All right.

PA– — — USE

Trainee: What’s the group’s name in Gaza?

Holder: No. What is in Iraq.

Trainee: I’m not asking you who’s in Iraq

Holder: Who’s in Gaza.

Trainee: I don’t know.

Holder: He’s in Libya, we’re not talking about them.

Trainee: Now how did I get to Libya?

Holder: Why you mentioned that group?

Trainee: If I mentioned the Libya extremist group name, who did I say is in Libya?

Holder: No. Who’s in Gaza.

Trainee: What’s in Gaza?

Holder: What’s in Iraq.

Trainee: I don’t know.

Holder: They’re in Iraq

Trainee: There I go, back in Libya again!

PA– — — USE

Trainee: Would you just stay in Libya and don’t go off it.

Holder: All right, what do you want to know?

Trainee: Now who’s in Libya

Holder: Why do you insist on putting Who in Libya

Trainee: What am I putting in Libya?

Holder: No. What is in Iraq.

Trainee: You don’t want who in Iraq?

Holder: Who is in Gaza.

Trainee: I don’t know.

Holder and Trainee Together: Libya!

PA– — — USE

Trainee: Look, you got extremists in Nigeria?

Holder: Sure.

Trainee: What’s their name?

Holder: Why.

Trainee: I just thought I’d ask you.

Holder: Well, I just thought I’d tell ya.

Trainee: Then tell me who’s in Nigeria?

Holder: Who’s in Gaza

Trainee: I’m not… stay out of Gaza! I want to know what’s the group’s motive in Nigeria?

Holder: No, What is in Iraq

Trainee: I’m not asking you who’s in Iraq

Holder: Who’s in Gaza!

Trainee I don’t know.

Holder and Trainee Together: Libya!

US creating programs to counter extremists
Published September 15, 2014, Associated Press
Feb. 2, 2012: Attorney General Eric Holder testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP)

The Justice Department is launching a series of pilot programs in cities around the country to deal with American extremists intent on joining the fighting in countries like Syria and Iraq, Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday.

The programs are designed in part to detect American extremists who are looking to join terror organizations, including the Islamic State militant group, and will bring together religious leaders, prosecutors and community representatives.

“Today, few threats are more urgent than the threat posed by violent extremism. And with the emergence of groups like ISIL, and the knowledge that some Americans are attempting to travel to countries like Syria and Iraq to take part in ongoing conflicts, the Justice Department is responding appropriately,” Holder said in a video message Monday, using an acronym for the Islamic State group.

The Justice Department did not immediately reveal which cities will be part of the pilot programs.

The White House, meanwhile, is scheduled to host a summit next month on the topic of countering violent extremists.

American law enforcement and intelligence officials have for months expressed concerns about Westerners who have traveled to Syria to take part in the fighting there. Last week, a 19-year-old Colorado woman pleaded guilty to trying to help the Islamic State group. Her plea deal requires her to give authorities information about other Americans with the same intentions.

Other countries have proposed or taken actions to deal with the problem of foreign fighters.

British Prime Minister David Cameron has proposed new laws that would give police the power to seize the passports of Britons suspected of having traveled abroad to fight with terrorist groups. And German authorities recently banned all activity on behalf of the Islamic State group, including the distribution of propaganda material and the display of its symbols.